[emacs-berlin] On why to use emacs/vim

Grant Rettke grant at wisdomandwonder.com
Wed Mar 31 01:05:21 UTC 2021


Forks and spoons are archaic. Why use them?

Same answer: all tools have their place.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:49 PM Fermin <fmfs at posteo.net> wrote:

> Seems like the guy who wrote the article never used vim or Emacs, and
> doesn't
> know the value of those tools.
> Like:
>
> "Vim and Emacs aren't going anywhere anytime soon, no matter their
> antiquated status in modern development environments"
>
> Really? antiquated status?, that guy is judging it the software by the tape
> and not by the inside or the functionality, and obviously didn't talk
> with an Emacs/Vim user.
> This is like hating Lisp by all the parenthesis, void critique.
>
> Don't worry, let's remember the rms  words:
> “People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the
> world.”
>
> Happy hacking!
>
> On 11/11/2020 21:17, jman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was reading this blog post from Stack Overflow [0], one of thousands
> > about the theme "emacs, vim or ... ?". The tone of the article is very
> > light and hand-wavy so not much to comment.
> >
> > One thing, though, struck me: the point of the authors is something
> > along comparing "old editors" (used mostly out of inertia) vs. "the new
> > shiny thing" (providing a friendly UI, more affordances, just get your
> > stuff done).
> >
> > It's completely overlooking the advantages of a textual UI: in my point
> > of view accessibility, consistency and reducing context switches between
> > tools. These keypoints often do not get through and it's limiting the
> > conversation to the surface.
> >
> > If there is *one* thing I'd like the Emacs project to improve (no idea
> > how) is comparing both UX and show the differences in terms of
> > productivity. For example, this video compares a GUI git workflow to
> > using git-send-email [1]: the difference is impressive.
> >
> > Happy hacking!
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > [0] https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/09/modern-ide-vs-vim-emacs
> > [1]
> https://spacepub.space/videos/watch/1619c000-7c44-4330-9177-29a0854bd759
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